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our system philosophy on intrasystem relationships is that there's no reason to forgo potential relationships with others for the sake of your tulpa

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you can be interested in your tulpas AND real people

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If your partner is trying to police your brain they're probably not good for you anyways

IMO, if you have a partner and tulpas, they should be aware of the fact that you have tulpas very early on.

5:42 PM

That's not the sort of thing you hide and surprise someone with even weeks down the line. It wastes your time and theirs.

yeah, preferably you let it be known before even asking them out

6:07 PM

that way they can be creeped out sooner rather than later, lol

"I heard of this thing called tulpas, what do you think about it"

7:33 PM

I think that's the point

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you explain what it is and see how she reacts

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-don-t-ever-tell-your-friends-or-family-about-your-tulpas?pid=207685#pid207685

Don't ever tell your friends or family about your tulpas

I'm Fox Girl Tulpa but with a new account, I asked an admin to delete my account and post/replies (thanks to whoever deleted it, don't remember who it was, sorry) because I RUINED my relationship with

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+ https://community.tulpa.info/thread-misc-jd-s-guide-to-telling-people-about-your-tulpa

JD's Guide to Telling People About Your Tulpa

JD's Guide to Telling People About Your Tulpa After all of your hard work, you may be considering telling some friends or loved ones about your tulpa. This is a fairly common desire -- however, sharin

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-tulpamancy-description-for-singlets-telling-your-friends-you-have-a-tulpa

Tulpamancy description for singlets / Telling your friends you hav...

Hey-hey! I wrote this article when I wanted my friends to meet my tulpa not long ago. It went smoothly and I shared it with few other systems who found it of a great help too. So I decided to share th

Just do what I did and find your future spouse through the community, lol

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I would say though that it's best to tell your SO about it, it would feel wrong to me to keep such a huge part of your life a secret from them, especially if it's a long-term relationship

8:36 PM

If they can't understand or accept it, they're probably not right for you

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Right. That's why you introduce them to the idea and see how they react before telling them that you have tulpas

showing them the .info page is usually a good start

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We've had one person of a dozen or so be like "so is this you being lowkey saying you got some?"

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If they say nothing, then they probably aren't in support of it, lol

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if they are fascinated, it's a pretty good sign

Hi, my tulpa is in love with my buddy who's at my house right now, it's fucking disturbing.

12:38 AM

why is it disgusting

disturbing, you may have misread (edited)

ah

12:39 AM

Well why's it disturbing

When I walk in the living room and I see him on his phone or do something, I hear in my head "too cute" or something like that. And she laughs when she sees that it disturbs me... ahah

well, then, you should talk together about her doing that.

12:42 AM

But you can't and shouldn't stop her from liking him. That's up to her.

I don't see what's wrong with a tulpa having feelings like that, given you're not in a relationship and neither is he

I would never do that, she's free, but I keep looking at him strangely now, he's a long-time friend, so it's weird.... I think it's funny, I'm just not used to it ^^ (and sorry for my bad english)

Lyra/ I've had a similar experience

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Lyra/ all of my tulpas were in love with someone I didn't feel anything for. Like, they'd front and the feelings would be there, but the moment they left the front I'd just feel nothing

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Lyra/ of course, I just let them do their own thing, since I trusted them to be responsible/make the right choices & I want Apollo to become the main front anyway

sorta same, not that strongly though

Oh ? So if one day I can switch and she's still in love with him, feelings come and go? interesting

Lyra/ Well I can't switch out, so I'm just always there experiencing them flirting or whatever. I just sort of got used to it over time.

I believe it is common for people who start to make tulpa to see their tulpa express things that they would otherwise be feeling and not comfortable with speaking out loud. The alternate sort of identity lets things be said without being "blocked" by existing biases and ideas of who you are or should be. This would be especially true when a person is not quite familiar with their emotions and is still learning to process and understand them.

Though I don't agree that tulpas are just alternate identities, I definitely agree that there can be a lot less mental blocks in place for us tulpas. Things like social expectations and stuff just don't matter to us at all, we didn't grow up on that

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Of course, that can lead to immature/irresponsible decisions on both the host and the tulpa's end

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So, when it comes to romantic relationships, I think it's best to wait until the tulpa is fully developed before delving into that

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and to be smart about it

how about this, maybe tulpas are actually people and have their own likes and dislikes

Yeah, I could see she was much less blocked than me on social issues and all that. But to express something that I could block.... I don't like my friend that much, haha. How long do you estimate it will take for a tulpa to fully develop ?

1-2 years

12:58 AM

given they're actually, you know, given consistent attention

is anyone ever really "fully developed"?

I am well versed in the art of telling my boss that I have no idea when the page will be done. Same rule applies here. No estimates.

Fully developed as in on the same mental level as the host, same personality nuance and all that

It's certainly difficult to estimate this kind of thing since it's related to everyone... Zoe is only 7 months old

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@bduddy #Diana# not wrong too

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Anyway, thank you, I needed to put that down somewhere, I'm not very active in the Tulpa communities, it's nice of you

Lyra/ Maybe when she's older you could allow her to pursue a relationship, if you'd be willing to give her that level of control. I know most hosts aren't though. I let my tulpas do whatever they want, heh

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Lyra/ or you could wait until you find someone that both of you like

Yep, I'll let her do what she wants, it's kind of a pact we made, but we're not there yet

1:07 AM

Thanks to you 3 !

I don't usually notice much of a difference in development/complexity between tulpas that are a year or so old vs those that are a few months old

1:48 AM

I think development is more exponential within the first few months and then levels off after that

I do

No tulpa is ever finished developing, it's just slower as they get older

There's a point when they get at a level of mental capabilities and personality nuance that's equal to that of the host. I

1:50 AM

'd say that's when they're fully developed

1:50 AM

not in the sense that they're finished developing but in the sense that they're at the maximum level of development they can be compared to the host

I see

hey forcing related, how do you try harder mentally?

what

@Felight how would I put more effort into forcing or any mental task really

I don't think it's a matter of putting more "effort" in. If anything you could just do it more often or for longer durations

6:03 PM

You could practice different methods and such to find what works for you the best

ya that's what I've been trying to do, it would be nice if there was a physically taxing option for tulpa creation too

Something more intensive will just make the whole thing less enjoyable, imo

6:14 PM

I think you've got the wrong idea about tulpamancy if you think it should be taxing

6:15 PM

yes

well it's not not enjoyable just really hard to get started and not get distracted or feel like I'm fighting to visualize Hanna

6:18 PM

I do like spending time with her I just want to be better at this by now

6:20 PM

it would be sweet to actually do stuff with her instead of having to put in a lot of focus just to be able sit on a park bench next to her

Maybe she could learn how to front, and do enjoyable things that way

diet might help ya, at this point I'm starting to feel like imposition might be easier(for me at least) than normal visualization

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oh ya I've seen that one it helped for a bit I'll have to try it again next time I'm active forcing (edited)

Hey guys. So I've discovered that my accidental tulpa, Jason, can front

Most tulpas can

Define "front." I suppose it depends per person.

It would mostly depend on mindset more than anything else

hey has anyone tried doing a (semi)solo dnd thing with their tulpa?

4:06 AM

I mean i'm sure it has been done but what would make it go well?

<Annabell> nope! Nobody else has! I can speak on behalf of everyone ever. Joking aside, I think it's more typical for people to form groups for things like that in this community

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<Annabell> Then unknown component is part of what makes that exciting, knowing all the answers makes it just a pain to not meta-game

Just have fun?

<Annabell> and then it becomes more like acting out a play, which is still fun but it's not the same experience

I've heard of it happening

Considering our work with anti-cheating measures for intra-system card games, we should try that.

oh but not metagaming is one reason I'm not super into dnd one thing I love in games is using explotes

It would be a great stress test for our abilities.

man that brings back memories of getting those cheat code books and renting games just to use the cheats

anti-cheating measures? so you've moved beyond just not paying attention?

you sound like anime characters

4:13 AM

"This will make for an excellent test of our abilities" "Nani?! You've gone a step beyond?" Annoying sound effect plays, "yes"

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I mean, the anti-cheating measure is building up an emotional resitance to accessing unlawful information.

4:14 AM

Or "not paying attention," but with good techniques for doing so.